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Nick Allitt
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Does anyone know of any way to remove a stuck wheel nut?

both fronts seem to be stuck on, rears came off eventually but took some effort with a breaker bar and pole.

Tried heating the nut with a heat gun but still didn’t move, thinking instead of a heat gun maybe use a small blow torch to really get some heat into it.

Any help would be appreciated!


   
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CharleyH
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I would try putting a good penetrating oil on the threads. Kroil is the best prnrtrating oil that I have found.


   
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John Parsons
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@nickallitt What sort of impact gun are you using to remove them? I've never had one that my Snap-on 5100 won't get off. If you haven't invested in one, the 18v Milwaukee cordless guns are awesome too.


   
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Nick Allitt
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@charleyhradicalsportscarregistry-com    Ok thanks I’ll give that a try tomorrow


   
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Nick Allitt
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@parsonsj   I’ve got a new 18v milwaukee 1898nm impact but that couldn’t getting it moving either, really don’t fancy cutting the nuts off so willing to try anything else first ha!


   
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CharleyH
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@nickallitt, I know this is likely a silly question since you got two of the wheels off… but are you sure you are turning the nuts in the correct direction?  I know the answer is likely yes, but it is worth asking / double checking.  It happens.


   
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Nick Allitt
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@charleyhradicalsportscarregistry-com 

Yeah its a fair question but yeah been working on the front left, red nut, anti-clockwise thread (just making sure) and folowing the “undo” arrow on the nut 


   
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Mick McMillan
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@nickallitt I had troubles previously and bought the Milwaukee 18v and found it awesome. It worked when I had a 1/2 Air rattle gun that wouldn't undo it. 

Only other way I have got them off before is to level a very long bar and I actually used my hoist to raise it up

Also do you you any anti seize on the nuts it makes a huge difference I put it on every time - https://bosca.com.au/products/penrite-copper-eze-anti-seize-grease-500g?variant=39417167872042


   
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Rod Bender
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Some good suggestions by bothers including the penetrating oil and Milwaukee 18v impact wrench you have.... ultimately the answer may well be as simple as a longer breaker bar... and more people to help load/hold things while you do it.  One trick I have seen used by others (not on Radicals but for the same problem) when using the bigger breaker bar to use a support for the wrench (down to the ground) at the point where it turns 90 degrees from the socket extension to the bar itself.  This means that all the load you are applying to the bar will be translated into torque and there won't be any chance of the socket 'rolling off' the nut.  The support I saw used effectively was just a piece of 2"x4" on it's end.  Te length was cut to be the radius of the front wheel minus half the dimension of the wrench at the point where the support sits. (In the case I saw they ended up with more than two mens weight on the bar... but the third didn't have to do much and off it came)... I would try this before you get the the last resort you mention above!  


   
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Nick Allitt
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Thanks all! Managed to get them off with some penetrating oil and the 18v milwaukee impact gun! Back of the nuts where a little rough so put some anti-seize grease on the mating faces and a little on the thread!

Am I correct in saying they should be torqued to 260n/m?

 


   
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Posted by: @nickallitt

Am I correct in saying they should be torqued to 260n/m?

260 foot-pounds


   
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Gordon Campbell
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Had the same issue   tried everything       got my local mobile truck guy  put his big double handed air gun with 1100 lbs on it still wouldnt move    reset gun to 1500  and spun off as normal     relief       2 min job      only thing i think cuased issue  was wet track day   and left car for over a month   .. now  i always free nuts   after track day      


   
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There is an old thread about anti-seize grease causing the wheel nuts to weld onto the interface of aluminum wheels, requiring the nuts to be removed by cutting.  I have not had this problem but I regret using anti-seize because it attracts dust and is messy.  I have been advised by an IndyCar tech not to use wet type anti seize compounds on the wheel hubs and instead use a dry film lubricant such as Dupont Molykote D-321R.  


   
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John Parsons
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@davidf Thanks for the info on the Molykote. I've never liked using anti-sieze on wheel nuts for the same reason you don't (and not just ordinary dust; brake dust!). I ordered a can of it just now. 


   
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Nick Allitt
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@davidf Found an old guide on here that had information about the torque setting for single wheel nuts. It says 200 ft lbs but maybe this isn’t correct?

200 ft lbs is 270n/m

260 ft lbs is 350n/m

Which is correct?

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